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Riggo-toni


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Date: Mar 28 6:40 PM, 2009
My Biggest Fear About Campbell and the Future.
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So, it's the contract year for Jason Campbell, and the jury is stil out...way out.  Yeah, there are haters who are already certain he's Tony Banks Part Deux (which admittedly, has been my biggest impression/worry/premonition ever since the rumors started that we were gonna draft him), and the koolaidoholics who insist that his athletic abilities make him destined to be the SB MVP of the future.  Turthfully, noone knows.  I'd bet even Zorn, Cerrato, et al are still scratching their heads.  If they weren't, Campbell would've either received a generous extension this offseason, or there would be something more to the Cutler rumours (which there isn't).
So here's my biggest fear.  It's not that Campbell will fail miserably, illustrating that the 2nd half of '08 was the harbinger of doom to come.  It's certainly not that all my doubts about him will be proven wrong and he will pass for 3000 yards and 25 TDs.  My fear - that he will continue to be the franchise's biggest tease.  Flashes of beautiful bombs to Santana that lift everyone out of their seats, followed by a succession of 5 yard slants that sail over receivers' heads or fall at their feet.  Stats and highlight reels will show continued progress, but nothing definitive at the end of the day.  Maybe the OL will collapse again, leaving us to wonder how much blame should truly lie at the QB's feet.  And then...it's contract time. 

Re-signing him will surely be costly, leaving us with little alternative in the future should the flashes of greatness prove to be mere flashes in the pan.  Not re-signing him after he begins to show signs of progress will bring back too many memories of letting Trent Green, not to mention Stan Humphries or Rich Gannon, slip away.  I somehow can't shake the paranoid premonition that whatever is decided will prove to be the wrong decision in retrospect. 

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Date: Mar 28 7:43 PM, 2009
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Of course we all hope Jason takes the next big step and becomes “The man” next season. Nobody is going to feel bad about having to stroke him a big check at the end of the season if that comes to pass. We know he’s working hard. We know he wants to make it happen. Is that enough? Sometimes the answer is no. We had better be ready for that possibility as an organization.

Clearly the best scenario is for Jason to definitively claim the job as his next season, but if the scenario you laid out happens, I think we have to move on. One way or another there will be options. We’ll have Colt, who may be ready to take over, if not for the long haul at least for a season. There also always seems to be at least one vet QB whose contact is up or who isn’t happy with their current situation we could acquire. Then there is always the draft. Any of those scenarios could set the team back a year or two but might be better in the long run than keeping the wrong guy.


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Date: Mar 28 8:36 PM, 2009
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I don't think this will be as big an issue as you think it might. I suspect Campbell will likely have the type of year you describe, i.e. some good plays but not consistently enough to warrant keeping him around. Bear in mind that I've been arguing for some time now that we should give him more time.

I still believe he should be given one more year to start, but with the caveat that he's got to really produce. If he doesn't take a huge leap forward at some point next season, we simply have to move on. No handwringing, no "but what if he turns the corner next year", just move on. Continued stagnation in Campbell's development next season would tell me that he's destined to be at best an average NFL QB or at worst a career backup.

I'm not the biggest Colt fan around, but at the very least he does provide us a guy in the pipeline with some promise. If Campbell fails, Brennan will step in with two years to prepare, behind (fingers crossed) a revamped OL and we'll finally be able to see what he can do.

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Date: Mar 30 11:14 AM, 2009
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I think Campbell is one of those guys who is neither great nor horrible. He's a decent quarterback. If the offensive line can hold up and protect him, he will put up good numbers. If they don't, he won't and the entire offense will suffer.

That being said, this is the make or break year for Campbell. No matter the play of the offensive line, if he does not produce this year, his NFL stock will crash.

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Date: Mar 30 12:29 PM, 2009
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I think the front office is looking at the Campbell situation differently than just about anyone else.

Consider for a moment that Campbell is entering his 5th year. This is significant because that means in the current absence of a CBA he will not be a Free Agent after this next season but rather a Restricted Free Agent. No need to offer an extension to him now if he can't go somewhere next year without the team getting right of refusal and compensation. If he does good this next year, they give him the money. If he stays the same or regresses they make him a qualifying offer next offseason so that they are ensured of getting something for him or having him as a backup.

In this case, I am not sure that the front office is not making good business sense.

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Date: Mar 30 12:56 PM, 2009
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I agree, Neo. At midseason last year, when the team was 6-2 and the national press was fawning all over Jason for his maturity and grit and protecting the ball, I was wondering if we weren't heading for a nasty offseason contract dispute. Figured if he led us to the playoffs and finished 90+ in QB Rating, he'd have set himself up to ask for serious money heading into his contract year. And given it's been like 400 years since Washington has had a real, live Pro Bowl level QB in hand, I figured he'd be the one with all the cards.

By the time the season ended though, and he'd shown at the very least that he's still very much a question mark, I was hoping the team would do exactly what I think they are doing ... playing the numbers and percentages, as you suggest.

I hope for his sake the man has an iron stomach and thick skin, because few QB's face the kind of play-by-play, series-by-series, game-by-game dissection he's going to be looking at come September.

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Chris


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Date: Mar 30 1:07 PM, 2009
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Neophyte wrote:



In this case, I am not sure that the front office is not making good business sense.



Well, hey, I feel much better now!

I completely overlooked the RFA detail. 

Why do I feel surprised to hear that our front office is taking a measured approach to the situation?



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Chris


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Date: Mar 30 1:09 PM, 2009
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Om wrote:


I hope for his sake the man has an iron stomach and thick skin, because few QB's face the kind of play-by-play, series-by-series, game-by-game dissection he's going to be looking at come September.



Hopefully he has Mark Brunell's cell phone number. smile



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Om


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Date: Mar 30 1:15 PM, 2009
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Seriously.

And in Mark's case, at least there was a history of success in the league he could to point to. Jason has no such luxury I'm afraid, and his "potential" chits are pretty much all used up. In year two now of this system, as the presumptive started heading to camp, he's fresh run out of "yeah but's."

Figure he's got two-three weeks to get it going before things start to steamroll on him in the press and among even the more patient fans. If the Skins start shaky on offense and fall to 1-2, or heaven forbid 0-3, we're going to find out a lot about how in control of the situation (both personally and in terms of his relationship with the owner) Coach Zorn is.



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Date: Mar 30 1:21 PM, 2009
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Much as I like and hate JC, and there are big swings both ways (hehehe, he said,both ways), he does not have the "it" factor, never seen it and I don't think it just shows up.

Nothing inspires me to feel that when we are down and he has the ball in his hands that he's gonna take us down to field to victory. I guess he has done it a couple of times, but so bad is my memory or so unmemorable are those wins that it just doesn't pop into my head.

I hope he has a good year for the Skins sake, but I hope we (the front office) can understand that, more than likely, it probably could have been done by many middle of the road QBs and we don't go giving him the bank.

I do think Colt has the "it", but I'm not sure that little dude can survive the NFL beasts pounding on him.

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Date: Mar 30 1:32 PM, 2009
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Chris wrote:

Well, hey, I feel much better now!

I completely overlooked the RFA detail.

 


Don't feel bad, Chris.  I am not seeing it referenced anywhere right now.  Not on "other" fan forum sites and not in the media.  To be honest, I only considered it last week after reading Peter King's Monday Morning QB column when he was talking about all the cards the owners currently hold in the negiations for a new CBA.  One of the big things he talked about was the change in free agency requirements from 4 years to 6 years of service and for some reason a light went off for me where Campbell is concerned.

You would think one of the Jasons from the Post, the beat writer for the Times or even Mosely from ESPN would note this as it applies to Campbell but if anyone has, I sure haven't seen it and I think it has a lot to do with how the Skins are treating him right now.  I also think both he and his agent know it.



-- Edited by Neophyte on Monday 30th of March 2009 01:34:04 PM

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Cardas


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Date: Mar 30 1:39 PM, 2009
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Well Neo, think of it this way; when we do see it, we can say with all honesty and proudly that we saw you say it first.

 

But as to the topic, I like Campbell.  I really do, however I agree that he just doesn't have that "IT" factor.


As much as I am trying to stay as far from this as possible, I do find myself intrigued by the Colt.  There is just something about him, something I can't quite put my finger on.  Keep in mind, I had never seen him play college ball, and yes I know his time in Preseason last year was scrub time... still.

Since I've already quoted Star Wars once today, may as well go for the twofer: 

 

"I sense something... A presence I haven't felt since..."

 



-- Edited by Cardas on Monday 30th of March 2009 01:44:08 PM

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