Kiper thinks the Skins want Sanchez

Hog Fever · Status: Offline

Kiper thinks the Skins want Sanchez

Om · Status: Offline

Was thinking about this earlier today ... it's hard to believe the Skins would tip their hand so blatantly, particularly with a couple weeks still to go. Not saying it's impossible---all it takes is one guy with loose lips---just seems too naive even for us.

What I'm kinda hoping is if someone IS talking over there, maybe it's just possible they're smart enough to be familiar with the concept of disinformation.

Aston · Status: Offline

Om wrote:

Was thinking about this earlier today ... it's hard to believe the Skins would tip their hand so blatantly, particularly with a couple weeks still to go. Not saying it's impossible---all it takes is one guy with loose lips---just seems too naive even for us.

What I'm kinda hoping is if someone IS talking over there, maybe it's just possible they're smart enough to be familiar with the concept of disinformation.

I sure hope you're right, Om.

We could be just laying some groundwork to do what we did last year - dish our 1st in order to stockpile a few seconds and thirds, which is a wise move for a team low on picks and in need instant help at a few positions, sustainable depth, and whose collective payroll is almost always playing hopscotch with the cap line.

Unfortunately, I think Kiper is right. It all seems to make sense when you add it all up.

From the football side.

Failing to close the Cutler trade because Denver didn't want Campbell had to have taken Cerato's confidence in Campbell from low to non-existent.
I think they're ready to move forward, right now, and I don't think they give a damn about tipping their hand. They're desperate, they want their quarterback, and they may want anyone and everyone to know they're ready to make a deal.
Over the last 8 games of the season, Campbell's passer rating is 72.3, with only 5 touchdowns, 6 interceptions, and only 186 yards a game. Oh, and a failed playoff berth, despite a 6-2 start.
I think the fact Todd Collins had so much success at the end of '07 might have sparked the first sense of doubt about whether Campbell was the guy. Ending last season the way that it did might have confirmed it.
On March 17th, the Post reported that Washington had no plans to extend Campbell's contract. Something tells me that hasn't changed.

Now from the business side of the fence.

Campbell simply doesn't have the wow-factor on the fans. He isn't a big draw, his jersey doesn't sell very well, and his personality is a bit bland and awkward. Not that any of that should matter, but from a business sense, I could appreciate an owner wanting a more lively, energetic personality to represent his franchise and get people in the stands.
Sanchez, on the other hand, is a marketing man's dream. High profile school, potentially the sport's first Mexican-American quarterback, electric head-turning presence, and looks that made my girlfriend of 5 years pause a live TV broadcast long enough to say "Oh my God, who the hell is this dark-eyed slice of heaven right here?"
During an economy that's this, how should I say it, not good, you can almost guarantee owners around the NFL are getting ready for a pretty substantial drop in ticket sales in 2009. With a stadium as big as ours, we're in a position to lose the most money. Sanchez would create significant excitement and attention during an off season where casual fans of a mediocre football team may have otherwise been too apathetic of the clubs future to justify spending a few hundred bucks to witness a 0-0 first half against Cleveland.

Cardas · Status: Offline

Great, just what we need. MORE Quarterback controversy... Awesome. hmm

Bang · Status: Offline

Yeah, why the hell would they put a little pressure on Campbell to step up going into his fifth year?
They're just asking for trouble. Everyone knows a QB needs at least 7 or 8 years before he's ready.

~Bang

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KB24 · Status: Offline

Let's see.... we have an aging, injury-prone offensive line. We have no consistent pass-rusher at the defensive end spot. We don't have a "proven" strong-side linebacker. I GOT IT! LET'S DRAFT A QUARTERBACK WITH OUR ONLY PICK UNTIL ROUND FIVE! BRILLIANT! disbelief rolleyes

At this rate, we'll be lucky to field a JV team come September.

Jimster · Status: Offline

Liking him and picking him are two different things.

Hog Fever · Status: Offline

Bang wrote:

Yeah, why the hell would they put a little pressure on Campbell to step up going into his fifth year?
They're just asking for trouble. Everyone knows a QB needs at least 7 or 8 years before he's ready.

~Bang

Hey, I’m all for applying a little pressure on Jason but this isn’t applying pressure, it’s moving on. I have always wanted Jason to do well but I’m no apologist for him. I thought the time to replace him was before last season (with Jeff Garcia who was available for almost nothing) and draft a young guy to develop. That ship has sailed. As middle of the road as Jason’s play has been he isn’t the only position of need on the team. Replacing him at any cost for an unknown seems a little short sighted. The team’s failure last year has as much to do with our receivers and O Line play than just Jason’s play.

Do you honestly see the wisdom of this? If we like Sanchez great, why telegraph the move? I guess it might just be the media using the Skins as a “usual suspect” in any deal at any time but that doesn’t strike me to be the case here given our past track record.

If the team loves Sanchez and he falls to 13, draft him. Don’t bend over and grab your ankles to move up. There will be options next season. There are always options. It’s not like the rest of the team is in place for a Super Bowl run anyway.

-- Edited by Hog Fever on Wednesday 15th of April 2009 09:16:39 AM

Larry Brown #43 · Status: Offline

Om wrote:

What I'm kinda hoping is if someone IS talking over there, maybe it's just possible they're smart enough to be familiar with the concept of disinformation.

Yeah, I'm hoping this too...but I gotta say our front office does a lousy job of controlling the message. They don't seem to have mastered the skill of putting up smokescreens. In fact, they don't even seem to try.

For example, with Cutler...we had the entire world convinced that we were desperate to land him. Because we were.

Yusuf06 · Status: Offline

Hog Fever wrote:

If the team loves Sanchez and he falls to 13, draft him. Don’t bend over and grab your ankles to move up. There will be options next season. There are always options. It’s not like the rest of the team is in place for a Super Bowl run anyway.

But we do such a great job of it HF moon

and after all, you can't argue with success.

fansince62 · Status: Offline

welll...here's my left field thinking:

1) The Skins really need O-linemen: guards, tackles and center...across the board either to start or for depth. certinaly for youth/longevity.

2) The Skins have a HUGE investment in Haynesworth

3) Much of the return to Haynesworth comes from "leveraging" his skills on the outside and other DT positions.

4) The Skins do not have a capable DE at this point to side next to Haynesworth.

5) To earn a full return on Haynesworth the smart...ROI kinda thinking...move is to draft a DE in the first round.

6) While OT is the number 1 need...IMO......gettng the 4th or 5th best guy as opposed to the 1 or 2 DE....doesn't make sense. They embarked down the road of moving the defense into the true upper echelon. Finsish th job for the next 4-6 yrs by drafting a top flight DE or...perhaps......a killer LB.

7) Use the 3rd pick for a guard/center/tackle.

Tradedowns change the whole logic. Since that is driven by immediate circumstances of the draft...its hard to project where that would go. I could only envision that happening for one of the LBs, Josh Freeman....or a top flight guard/center.....with a second rnd pickup. I would keep to offense in the latter rnds since mt take is that depth at DE in this draft is adequate but not spectacular.

-- Edited by fansince62 on Thursday 16th of April 2009 08:15:03 AM

Om · Status: Offline

Coupla fine posts in here.

Aston,

You've covered the angles well. I don't say this lightly, and it's not a slam dunk decision, but bottom line ... IF the team is convinced Mark Sanchez is a high-percentage candidate to be the franchise QB they've been looking for since forever ... AND he either 1) falls to #13 (which I don't think he will), or 2) he can be had by moving up at a sane cost (which I don't think he will be) ... they have to take him.

QB isn't like other positions. Like I said with Cutler, if you think he's That Guy, you have to do whatever is within sane boundaries to get him. Period. You get a legit big time QB locked in for the next 10 years, building a team around him becomes a whole hell of a lot easier.

fansince,

Assuming the above does not come to, um ... pass ... (sorry) ... we're thinking along similar lines. Sorry again. I'm all about landing a ROT, but not if it means passing on a higher-rated DE.

Right now I'm loving the idea of a big body lining up in front of the SAM we don't have, and while I don't do the serious scouting of prospects so many fellow fans do, I'm loving what I hear about DE Tyson Jackson outta LSU. Seems like the full-grown, run/pass anchor end we haven't had around here since forever. If he's still on the board (or someone they might have ranked ahead of him), and they have him ranked ahead of the best OT left on their board ... grab him up.

Hell, it'd probably make them feel so good about their DL they can go another decade plus without drafting one ...

-- Edited by Om on Thursday 16th of April 2009 12:44:33 PM