Your Chance To Play Nostradamus- J. Campbell Edition

Chris · Status: Offline

Your Chance To Play Nostradamus- J. Campbell Edition

Om · Status: Offline

Very tough question. Good job ya bastige. cool

It's not an easy call, but I think I'm gonna have to go with no. Not so much based on Campell himself, but the way you worded, basing it "solely on his performance."

I think there's a decent chance he'll BE back as the starter in '10, but based more on the general improvement of the team around him. If all the various other factors coalesce around him, combined with his own improvement, lead the team into the playoffs, I can see the team opting to resign him out of not wanting to break up the band just as it seems to be coming together.

Just not sure in this system, with all other things being equal, he's a good enough fit or individually gifted enough a playmaker to buy him another year as presumptive starter.

Hog Fever · Status: Offline

Tough one. Maybe I should write a quatrain that was so vague that it would cover my ass either way. Then after the season I could claim I was right.

When a man named JC were to take command
The bug eyes upon him to seize control
Who leads his troops into enemy land
To displease the people from the bowl

My explanation will be revealed after the season of course.

Seriously, I think the answer is probably going to be “no”. I just don't think Jason is anything other than what he currently is; about a .500 QB. That would be fine if the team around him were dominant but they aren't. Still lots of questions on the O-line and with the WRs. Not his fault to be sure, but he'll end up being the handy fall guy. Then we have to search for a new QB. There will be none in free agency worth anything so we'll trade a bunch of draft picks to move up and get Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy. Lather, rinse, repeat.

What remains to be seen is if Jason will go down solo or if Zorn and maybe Vinny will go right along with him. You guys understand what it means to love a team and to want to see them do well but to see them stomp on every bag of flaming poop on the porch year after year. This team was not built correctly. It's as simple as that. What bothers me most of all is that there seems to be an obvious blueprint for success to follow that we ignore year after year. We never learn.

The last glimmer of hope was the Marty year and there just wasn't enough room for his ego and our owner's on the same team, so he had to go. As it is currently put together I don't think we're going to be much better than a .500 team. I could be wrong by a game one way or another but I can't see this team winning 13 games or anything. Too thin on the lines and not enough talent to compensate at the skill positions.

Chris · Status: Offline

Om wrote:

It's not an easy call, but I think I'm gonna have to go with no. Not so much based on Campell himself, but the way you worded, basing it "solely on his performance."

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I did struggle with trying to word the question correctly.

I then defaulted to the position that all the glory of success gets piled on the qb's shoulders and all the shame of failure laid at his feet.

I think the offense has the chance to be much improved this year IF the o-line allows.

-- Edited by Chris on Sunday 5th of April 2009 02:10:53 PM

Chris · Status: Offline

Hog Fever wrote:

You guys understand what it means to love a team and to want to see them do well but to see them stomp on every bag of flaming poop on the porch year after year. This team was not built correctly. It's as simple as that. What bothers me most of all is that there seems to be an obvious blueprint for success to follow that we ignore year after year. We never learn.

Reading this I get the same feeling I get when I'm arguing with my wife.

I don't like her take, but I know she's right. :)

Riggo-toni · Status: Offline

I just don't see it. I think we will make him a modest (lowball) offer, which he will take as an insult and decide he can get more elsewhere. He will go somewhere else, to a team floundering at the QB position, and be supplanted from the starting role about midway through the season.

B&G · Status: Offline

Jason has all the physical and mental ability he needs to succeed but doesn't seem to have the fire and leadership qualities necessary for him to become a franchise QB.

I see him leaving the Redskins along with Zorn and the rest of the staff at the end of this season.

Boy, sure hope I'm wrong....nothing would please me more.

Larry Brown #43 · Status: Offline

I'll have to say no.

With another year of experience behind him, a full year in the current system under his belt, a huge chip on his shoulder, and a contract year to boot, I believe Jason will have his best season as a pro.

But it's crystal clear at this point that the FO is, at best, skeptical of Jason as a starting QB. And for the FO to do a full 180 and decide to extend JC's contract, he'll have to absolutely blow them away this year. Considering the FO's current position on Campbell--for Jason to grab the attention of the front office, he'll have to also grab the attention of the entire league. (Which would mean, even if we'd WANT to extend him, we'd likely have competition for his services.)

Again, I think he'll play very well this year, and better than we've seen from him in the past. But anything short of a Pro Bowl-level performance out of him, and I think the FO lets him walk.

-- Edited by Larry Brown #43 on Monday 6th of April 2009 01:59:45 PM

Yusuf06 · Status: Offline

To paraphrase the magic 8 ball,

Spoiler: I'd have to say somewhere between "Don't count on it" and "Cannot predict now".

The reason it's so hard to tell is that JC is either on the verge of taking that next step and becoming a good QB on the level of say, Matt Hasselbeck, or has plateaued and WYSIWYG. Right now there's no real way to tell which it is.

Unfortunately for him, his performance will also depend a lot on Zorn's playcalling and the performance of our receivers. Neither of those inspires much confidence-at this point anyway.

As much as I'm pulling for him and genuinely like the guy, I strongly suspect JC will end up as Patrick Ramsey part deux and we'll see Colt start a few games towards the end of next season.

Larry Brown #43 · Status: Offline

Yusuf06 wrote:

As much as I'm pulling for him and genuinely like the guy, I strongly suspect JC will end up as Patrick Ramsey part deux and we'll see Colt start a few games towards the end of next season.

This raises an interesting question that has crossed my mind. Let's say JC has a middling-type season, and the FO lets him walk. Will Colt ever be given a chance by this team to show what he can do, and compete for a starting job here?

I realize I'm getting way ahead of myself, but if you think about it-- had we landed Cutler, that would have all but ended any chance of Colt ever becoming a starter here.

I really hope JC has a breakout season, but if he doesn't...I must admit I'm curious about Colt's potential. I hope we don't fall in love with someone else's QB (a la Cutler) without having a full understanding of what we have in-house.

Maybe Colt will never amount to more than a backup in the league, but if so, I hope we make that that decision as an organization...and not simply because we think we brought in someone better (and more expensive) from elsewhere.

KB24 · Status: Offline

Oh, I have sooooo many conflicting feelings here, given that he's my favorite current Redskin. As much as I want him to play well, I have a feeling that this is his final year in D.C. I can't see the organization keeping him after trying to move heaven and earth -- allegedly -- to pick up Jay Cutler. That's a slap in the face. It really stinks because he's had to learn different offensive systems and the FO hasn't given him the proper tools to be successful -- young, hungry offensive linemen, better personnel at receiver. I honestly can see him having a GREAT season at quarterback, then telling the team to stick it and go someplace else where he'll win a Super Bowl. Time will tell.

Om · Status: Offline

Welcome aboard, KB.

I think your use of the word conflicted pretty much encapsulates how many of us feel about JC at this point.

In four years, I have yet to hear anyone say a bad word about him as a man or teammate. His work ethic is impeccable. He represents himself and his team with class and dignity. He was an arm that can bring you out of your seat when he lets it. He can buy those 2-3 extra 3rd-down conversions a game with his legs that can make the difference between W and L. And we're about to see him actually head into a second consecutive year in the same offensive sytem.

Unfortunately, we have also seen him late with the ball on far too many occasions to simply write off as learning curve. We have seen an inconsistent focus in the pocket. We have seen a distinct lack of "fire" or what could otherwise pass as pro-active field generalship---the kind of personal, charismatic spark that only a QB can provide an offense late in games when everyone is tired, hurting and beginning to doubt.

As you suggest, it does all come down to this year for Campbell. Unless literally the entire OL disintegrates again to injury, there are no more "yeah, but's" left to point to as excuse another so-so year. Nice guy and hard worker or not, 2009 stacks up as the make or break year for JC in Washington.